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Welcome to the Joy-Inspired Podcast.
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I'm Mickey Cruz, and I'm thrilled to explore with you what it means to walk in a faith-infused business.
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This is your space to find powerful tools and insights, to build with resilience and to create impact through your unique purpose, discovering a joy that only God can provide.
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Together, let's embrace a business journey anchored in faith and empowered by joy.
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Let's jump in.
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Well, hello there, amazing, amazing Kingdom entrepreneurs.
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It's your favorite joy junkie, Nikki Cruz, and we are here to just celebrate God, celebrate God in our businesses.
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And all us joy-chasing entrepreneurs, welcome back.
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And if there's someone you know should be watching this, be sure to tag them or share this with them.
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Because this is the joy-inspired podcast, where joy isn't just acute feeling.
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Joy is actually a strategy, it's a weapon, and it's a whole kingdom lifestyle.
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You know, I get excited every time we get to talk about purpose, healing, and building businesses that look like those Fortune and function, by the way, like those Fortune 500 companies, but this time for Jesus.
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And today, today I have the incredible honor of having our guest here who always makes me feel whenever we talk, I feel her energy, but I also feel her peace.
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And it's absolutely a beautiful.
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We have this amazing, brilliant, heart-healing powerhouse, Jennifer Jenny Norwick, founder of Freedom for Life Coaching.
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This woman carries wisdom, peace, and a whole lot of Holy Ghost oxygen, folks.
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So hang on there.
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When you talk to you, your heart takes deep breath and you just breathe.
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And today she's going to help us explore what it truly means to launch from a healed heart.
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All right, you ready?
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Grab your coffee, grab your pen, grab your paper, and step into some peace as you just take a moment to receive.
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Jennifer, Jen, my friend, welcome.
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I'm so excited to have you here.
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So for those who have never met you before, tell us, who do you serve and what is it that you actually do?
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Tell us a bit about yourself.
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Well, good morning, Nikki.
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And I've I've got my Bible and I've got my coffee.
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So we are in the right place here today.
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Awesome.
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So, as Nikki said, I'm Jenny Nowak, and my husband and I do premarital counseling for engaged and newlywed Christian couples.
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Because we have found not only is it so important to check the finances, check the love language, check how you fight.
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Yes, there is a right way to fight, but it's also important that when you find differences, you have a platform, a framework to turn those differences into healing and prevent irreconcilable differences.
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So that's what that's what we do.
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We do a coaching program, we do the standard things that everybody's got to know to have that good marriage, a good relationship, and we marry it with heart healing so that those differences don't become destructive.
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Wow.
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Wouldn't you guys like to have had that?
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Like if you're married 20 years ago when you got married?
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Because it's so true.
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Hey, if you tell me you've had a marriage with no fights, I'm gonna tell you there's something wrong.
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But there are differences, and we get to love and respect them.
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And what if we could incorporate them to create strengths between us?
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That's what you guys do.
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Yes, and I know that you also prevent people from dragging all their old baggage into their relationships.
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But you said something on your form that I absolutely loved.
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That four years ago you became a kingpreneur.
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Can you tell us what that shift looked like for you?
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What did God change in you to make that shift?
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Yeah.
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What did business start to look like that was different when Jesus stepped in as your CEO?
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What a beautiful process.
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Yes.
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I I've always had God ideas.
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And my father was an entrepreneur, and he would get out there and put his ideas into play, and he did well with it.
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Um, so I had a business mindset, but when I got hold of letting Jesus be the CEO, serving the way he wants to serve, helping people thrive and flourish under his lordship and not feel trapped under it.
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Oh my gosh, it was so beautiful.
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Um, the creativity part of that, it wasn't just my rigid business mindset that was good.
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It was, Jesus, what are we creating today?
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And what needs to be healed in my heart so that we can do that?
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And wow, I mean, you can tell by the look on my face that has changed.
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You hit a topic that is so near and dear because it's not just about Jesus, do this with me, it's Jesus do this in me so that I can do this through you.
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And that that truly is where the joy lies.
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Because when we do it in partnership with Jesus, the striving stops.
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And it's so much easier when you let him be in control.
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Take so much of the pressure off, and we don't realize that.
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And I think it's the same in our relationships.
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When you we involve Jesus in our relationship, you know, and it does take an identity shift because you are no longer the one in charge.
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And the identity shift, folks, comes before the business shift.
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And that is such a powerful thing that us entrepreneurs get to learn.
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And sometimes we make that decision, and then we kind of forget we made that decision.
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You know, Isaiah 43, 19 reminds us, behold, I am doing a new thing.
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Do you not perceive it?
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And when we forget, he does that new thing again.
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So there's no shame, there's no condemnation.
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Sometimes we can't perceive the new thing because of those old wounds, and they're still yelling louder than God's whisper.
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And sometimes when God's voice is loud, those old wounds and defensiveness get even louder.
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So our episode today is titled Launching from a Healed Heart.
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And I believe somebody just convicted and set free out there just by sharing that.
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Can you share a specific moment where healing unlocked a breakthrough in your business or perhaps in a client?
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Yes, all the time.
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All the time.
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I'll I'll share one of my it's a it's a personal story, but it's based off of a client's story.
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And so I had a client who was trying to launch a business and she was doing okay with it, but it wasn't really taking off.
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And we were trying to pray through what was going on and what was happening.
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And in the midst of one of our sessions, Holy Spirit revealed to her that she had judged her mother for not being organized.
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And oh my gosh, anybody who's tried to launch a business, if you're not organized, you know the thousand ways that that can go wonky.
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And so we prayed through that.
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We prayed through the wounds, the disappointments, the parties, the schedules, the dance recitals, the no outfits, the all the things that organization had impacted uh in her as a child.
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And then we started looking at not only were there hurts, but she had judged her mom, right?
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Where we take the bad attitude of why can't you just do it right?
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Why can't I just show up like the other kids with the stuff that I need?
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Wow.
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Does that sound like conversations we have with ourselves around business, right?
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Why can't I just launch this thing right?
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Why can't I just show up for my event with all of the things in order?
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So we were able to break the that judgment off of her and the expectation that said, you know what, I'm never going to be as organized as I need to be to be able to get done what the Lord has for me to do for him.
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So we got her free from all of that.
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It took what 30 minutes, you know, a drop of nothingness in our span of life.
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And literally in the next couple of weeks, she went out totally renewed, differently focused, more happy and creative in what she was producing.
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And so that was beautiful in and of itself.
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Now I'm the coach, but in the middle of this, Holy Spirit is dropping in my mind, in my heart, Jen, we need to talk about this later.
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And I'm like, okay, make a note of it because right now I'm a little busy.
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But later, Holy Spirit and I sat down and I'm like, what?
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And he's like, You've judged your mom for not being organized.
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We were a family of four, uh, four kids.
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People were everywhere all the time.
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We were always late, always missing something, never quite had it all together.
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And I was like, gosh, Holy Spirit, you are so right.
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And got my husband and prayed the same prayers as Holy Spirit led us.
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And again, that totally shifted my organizational skills.
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They were there.
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I didn't have to learn new skills, but I wasn't being blocked from using them because of patterns I had put in place in the supernatural.
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And so now it's it's funny because in one of my businesses, my clients say, You are like the the organizational queen, Jenny.
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Everything is and it runs so smoothly.
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And I'm like, oh, thank you, Jesus.
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Yeah.
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And that's what our coaching does.
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That's the freedom that it brings, not only in the clients, but back in me, my husband, my family, all the time by listening to Holy Spirit.
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Oh, and and I love that you pointed that out because so often we're very quick to share our stories of the transformation and the empowerment we bring to clients.
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But every time we take a step, God is empowering and equipping us for our next level.
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We never stop growing.
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Can you imagine if we stopped growing?
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If you imagine, God said, You got to the end of your journey, you've achieved.
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So there's always more, folks.
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But I bet you, just like you realize the Holy Spirit was speaking to you, someone listening right now is sitting there thinking, wait, is that me?
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You know, when you get that feeling and thinking, where did she get my number?
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Has she been reading my mail?
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So tell us, how does somebody know if wounds or judgments or expectations are actually blocking their progress?
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Yes.
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Well, our our foundational scripture, and I'm I'm reading it over here so that I get it perfectly right to represent the word, but our foundational scripture comes from Luke chapter 4, verses 18 and 19.
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And Jesus shows up in the temple, and the priest hands him the scroll and says, You know, Rabbi, would you read for us today?
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And he reads out of Isaiah 61, and it says, The Spirit of the Lord is upon me because he has anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor.
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He has sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives and recovery of sight to the blind, to set at liberty those who are oppressed, and to proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord.
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So we know that we're wounded because Jesus said, I gotta heal your broken heart.
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Wow, if he says I'm wounded, who am I to say, yeah, no, that didn't really hurt?
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So, Nikki, that's number one.
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The scripture flat up tells us that we're wounded.
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The other ways that we know is when there's frustration, right?
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So in our words, in our tone of voice, you, if you if you listen to yourself, if you're honest with yourself, we hear disappointment, we hear frustration, we hear that things that come out of our mouths that are I can't, well, I don't know, but what if those are all signs of wounds, places we've been hurt before, and we don't trust that it's gonna go well.
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So we go, but what if?
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And we pull back.
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That's a definite sign of wounding.
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And the last one, definitely if there's any anger in your voice, we have a catchphrase that we tell everybody to write down anger is the manifestation of a wound.
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Think about if you have bruises, a broken arm, and maybe it's not casted, it's healing up, okay, or you haven't been to the doctor yet, and somebody comes by and goes, Hi, Jenny.
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And instead of a hi, they get a wow, that hurts.
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Why are you touching me?
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That anger is the definite sign that there's something underneath there that's not healing, but it's festering.
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That's a that's a wound, that's a hurt.
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And that is so true and so good.
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And uh, yeah.
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But then we sit there and we do the forgiveness work.
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Doesn't the forgiveness work just take care of the healing?
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Why do we still need healing after we've done the forgiveness?
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I love this question, and I get it almost every session that I do, definitely every first session that I do with a client, and I hear it again and again, but I've forgiven him, her, them, all, everybody.
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I've forgiven.
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If you go back to that same scripture, Jesus says, I came to bring the gospel, the good news.
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And what is that good news?
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The good news is that we're forgiven, and as we've been forgiven, we can forgive others.
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And that's what the church preaches today, right?
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Forgiveness unto salvation, come to Jesus.
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Yay! But Jesus didn't stop there.
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That's the doorway to the kingdom.
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You go, I don't want to stand at the doorway, Nikki.
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I want to get in the kingdom and access all the stuff that God says guidance, provision, protection, right?
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And so forgiveness is a starting place, and it's imperative.
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We we pray, pronounce, declare freedom all the time in our sessions.
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And we go the next step and say, Jesus, heal the broken heart, set the captive free, open their eyes to the blind spots.
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So it's definitely important, but it's a launching foundation, it's not an ending spot.
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That's amazing.
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And I, you know, what comes to mind is a while back I was driving after I got really mad about something, and onto the radio came this thing on forgiveness.
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And I thought, okay, Lord, and this one is not for me to gain knowledge so I can teach it.
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This is for me.
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But one of the things that was said, which I found incredibly powerful and interesting, is people say, you know, if you remember, it means you haven't forgiven.
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And the guy said, That is so untrue because forgiveness is a spiritual work.
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Forgetting is a biological function in your brain.
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And I thought, wow, that is so true.
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Yeah, and you can do one out of obedience and discipline, and the other takes time.
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What is your response to that?
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I don't know if you've ever heard that before.
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I have heard that and I have experienced that.
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If you look at our lives, we have this fraction of a second when we're in the here and now.
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And then we have thousands of memories that we base every decision that we make off of.
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And then hopefully we also have a couple hundred to hundred thousand of promises of God that are our future that we also look to, right?
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But so the the actual here and now Jenny in the flesh is a is a millisecond.
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So there's a lot of memories going on in our world, which is where that forgiveness peace comes from, right?
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Did I forget it?
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Did I not?
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And so again, here's here's my hope for our clients.
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There are things that have happened to me that I remember all the time.
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But because of the forgiveness and the wounds being healed and the judgments released and the expectations being loosed, they don't bring me pain anymore.
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Right?
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I've shared with you, Nikki, that I'm I'm a survivor of childhood sexual trauma.
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I got a lot of rights, if you will, to be angry about some things.
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But that that scripture that says, be angry and sin not, I was sinning in that.
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But I forgave.
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Jesus healed those hurts, walked the whole process several times through.
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It wasn't a one-time event.
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It took many times of praying because there were many events, but I can think about that now and it doesn't hurt.
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I can think about the person and it doesn't hurt.
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That's how I know that I'm healed and that I'm free.
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And it is part of who you are, and it has brought out a beautiful side in you as you've led into that forgiveness.
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And I think that's a huge part of healing, folks, that we don't recognize.
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Yes, it would have been great if those bad things didn't happen, but they did.
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And they can either destroy our lives, yeah, or we can work through it and they can bring a testimony of healing.
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Yes.
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And you don't get you don't need to celebrate that those things happened to you, but you can celebrate the fact that you've been healed from them.
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And I don't know why that's so heavy on my heart to say at the moment.
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So it, you know, let's take that concept because these personal things, and all of us have these things happen just to a greater or lesser degree.
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And people say, Oh, but I don't have any big thing in my life.
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You know, the big things and the small things are all things, and the things all have repercussions and reactions to them, and they affect how you run your life and your business.
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Yeah, so you know, God comes up with ideas, and um you just battle with it, perhaps because there's some brokenness.
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So here's another one people wrestle with.
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I'm pursuing my God idea.
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Won't God just take care of all the challenges?
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And I think in the relationship too, God gave me this relationship, so won't He just smooth everything out?
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Talk to that.
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Well, the short answer is no.
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Uh, God's job isn't to control us, God's job is to guide, to protect, to make opportunities, but it's our job to walk those things out, right?
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Do all things in excellence unto the Lord as a um workman.
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I'm forgetting the rest of it, created in his image.
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That that's probably a conglomeration.
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Don't get on me for summarizing.
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But we are called to do things in excellence.
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That that means we have to keep improving, we have to keep doing.
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We don't have the option to just sit and wait and see what God's gonna produce and drop in our lap.
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Now, he does drop some really amazing things in our lap that that can be additional launch places and foundations for us, but we're still called to do the things.
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We're called to send the email, we're called to do the summit.
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And there are challenges in those things because we are not living in resurrected bodies in the new kingdom yet.
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We are still here on earth dealing with our flesh, dealing with a lot of other people's flesh, dealing with the hard knocks of technology and all of the different things that we have that aren't renewed yet.
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And again, the more that we are trapped in patterns.
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From hurts and judgments and expectations, the more difficult those things can be.
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Instead of walking the process freely, I mean, marathon runners, uh, Olympians, they still trip and stub their toes sometimes.
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And there's not condemnation in that.
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It's like, wow, that just happened and keep going.
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So learning again the process of I'm okay with keeping going.
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Yes, that thing happened, but I'm showing up anyway.
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And when I can, I'm gonna take a second with Holy Spirit and get that thing freed.
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So I'm released from it, is just the process that we get to to walk through.
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Yeah.
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And and God is not somebody asked me the other day, how do you ask God for peace?